How NOT to Raid

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Here is a battle report from a recent attack. In this, I am SuperMan. And the other player (the attacker) is the attacker. :P

If you notice from the original fleet, he sent the recyclers with the attacking fleet. Now I don’t know about you, but to me, unless you ABSOLUTELY have to have the cargo capacity, this is a not-smart thing to do.

Furthermore, there was half a million metal and about 220,000 Crystal. Which I have started collecting. :)

Here is the report:

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1. If you send a recyler with your fleets you can send a second fleet of recylers within in seconds of the attacking fleet and they will arrive with in seconds of each other giving no one else an oppertuinity to get the res. The down side is that it gives the person being attacked more time to fleet save so only use it when you know there not going to be there.
   — renegade    Jun 21, 12:28 AM    #
2. What’s the point of Space Bum attacking if he didn’t get any resources at all? I mean, it was an almost worthless attack.
   — RK_Maverick    Aug 7, 04:52 PM    #
3. Looks like “Space Bum” was fleet saving by attacking. Some higher players will do this. Find a lower player, and send their entire fleet to overwhelm that players defense and ships. The recyclers will slow down the fleet enough till when the player comes back.
   
   I had one player send a fleet that took a little over 11 hours before it hit me. Gave me enough time to upgrade my defense 3x and move all my fleet and resources. The attacking player lost most of his light ships, a portion of his heavy ships, and most of his recyclers. He still won the battle, but got away with 5 metal, 5 crystal, and 3 deuterium.
   — TJ    Sep 5, 08:32 PM    #

4. This is what I did once, and it worked out just fine. After espionage is complete, I ran battle simulation, and recorded that information. Then,

   a) I sent one espionage probe on an attack mission. It was destroyed by the defense, obviously… :D and a small debris field was created. (300 crystal… :D)

   b) I ordered my recyclers to go on a harvesting mission, in that debris field.

   c) After a while, I sent my fleet to raid the planet, and set up the timing, so it reaches the destination about 5 minutes before recyclers (since the fleet is much faster, it wasn’t so hard :D).

   Outcome: defense and fleet on that planet was destroyed, I lost some of my LFs and HFs… my fleet loaded half of the planet’s resources and finally, 5 minutes after the battle, my recyclers arrived and collected the debris.

   
   — BD ba    Dec 11, 12:17 PM    #

5. do all atacks just happen in seconds?

   
   — dan    Dec 28, 12:03 PM    #

6. yes, all battles happen just about instantly. this is done because 1) it makes the deuterium consumption less complicated than having to guess how long the battle will last, and send more or less deuterium than needed, and 2) no one wants to wait for a real time battle between a thousand battleships and a hundred destroyers.

   
   — Alien    Jan 7, 01:46 AM    #

7. Not a lot for a chance of a moon is there, i remeber once i got 20% still neva got one

   
   — Ramirez    Jan 12, 11:06 AM    #

8. what I recomend if you want a moon is that you could set up a deal with a friend for you and your friend to attack each other with 500 small cargo ships to get a 6% chance at a moon until you both have one. I prefer small cargo ships to light fighters beacuse you can send more to planets without destroying thier defences. they cost more crystal but they leave defences unharmed.

   
   — The Siskin    Feb 18, 03:15 PM    #

9. actually i recomend using probes cuz they’re cheap and quick to build

   
   — JLLI    Mar 1, 02:24 AM    #

10. I attacked this one guy with a huge fleet of cargo ships (100) and he had a bunch of resources and only 1 small laser, 1 small cargo ship, and 1 probe! I got like 100k of everything!

    
    — buddha boy    Mar 7, 12:15 PM    #

11. Like omg… y do you need to send a fleet? (If you know you will be trashed) Much easier to make amends and blow him or her up next month :D

    
    — Noobius    Mar 8, 01:48 AM    #

12. is there any way to skip 2 another universe?

    
    — darth vadar    Mar 22, 03:31 PM    #

13. darth vadar: no you cant. u can only send ships to people inside ur universe!

    i think thats right anyway lol

    C.G

    
    — Commisar Gaunt    Mar 29, 05:23 PM    #

14. hi..i have always wondered

    when destroying defenses.. does it contribute to the debris feild or the profit?

    
    — Dementia    Apr 7, 01:51 PM    #

15. if u ould yust hop to another galaxy every1 from uni1 whould help his new ccount in a higher uni

    
    — kill wizzy    Apr 9, 12:54 PM    #

16. that is the worst attack i have ever saw! sending Recys and no profit! low techs someone needs to update there techs

    
    — Anthony    Apr 14, 06:51 PM    #

17. im not suprised that he won,take a second look at the fleet he sent to you.

    
    — Sirius168    Apr 20, 08:31 AM    #

18. wow is there any way to save the fleet in ca 2 seconds ? I can do it in 3 when there is to much traffic on the server but any way it is not possible if there is not so much traffic…please help me

    
    — J0k4    Jun 1, 02:48 PM    #

19. Well, I LITERALLY made an an attack worthless, plus boosted my self: spent 32k Metal on armor, 3k metal, 2k Crystal on robotics and something on small lasers. Amount attacker got upon impact: 1500 Metal 3896 Crystal 3600 deuterium… 3 Rewards: +Armor and +Robots, and the pleasure of making him send his whole fleet on me for no res. and when my alliance blew his defenses up while the fleet wasn’t there by
    ACS and raided him of almost everything…

    
    — Aurum    Jun 20, 08:51 AM    #

20. I once had someone attack me (from quite a distance away—I fleetsaved) who had nearly five times the amount of points I had at the time. He overwhelmed my ‘defences’ and raided me for all I was worth… at that time 2 metal 5 crystal and -1 deuterium. Neither I nor he have ANY idea how I had -1 deuterium…

    Has this bug happened to anyone else? It has happened to me again recently when I espionaged a person’s colony, and he apparently had -1 deuterium… this bug does not affect gameplay, but it is very odd…

    
    — Farothe    Jun 21, 10:29 PM    #

21. Lol wonder what was there originally for him to send such a big fleet must have been a lot of res or he is just an idiot to send such a huge fleet for so little gain.

    
    — dum dum    Jun 23, 08:32 AM    #

22. He had some kind of a grude against me…? The matter is still not clear. I think he was just an idiot and covered his error with a claim to that effect.

    
    — Farothe    Jun 23, 08:04 PM    #

23. Could the -1 deuterium phenomenon possibly have been caused by the Fusion Reactor’s deuterium drain?

    
    — Arbron    Jul 2, 02:33 AM    #

24. I think he is great and should get both parachutes

    
    — lance    Jul 14, 03:41 PM    #

25. hey i just attacked someone with an esp probe and guess what, i won! XD and it came home with 1 metal 1 crystal and 1 deuterium :D

    
    — someone    Jul 15, 10:30 AM    #

26. I had the saw the oddest attack

    some guy attacked with 500 probes against my friends conoly with there sheild dome

    out come

    sheild dome guy won with a moon

    
    — Yoda    Jul 24, 03:45 PM    #

27. methinks the guy that attacked u was a noob cos he wuda lost more in ship cost then he raided from u hahahahahahahahhaha

    
    — thecat    Aug 16, 02:45 PM    #

28. @ alien
    the only reason they wud make it real time was when it wud be animated!!! that wud be col its like they create a battleship fighting betting

    
    — thecat    Aug 16, 02:49 PM    #

29. After an attack, when the debris are floating around, if a moon is to be created from the debris, will it be created immeadiately after the attack, or will you have to wait for a certain amount of time for it to be formed? Also, you said that you could send a recycler fleet immeadiately following the attack fleet. Is it possible to send the recyclers to a DF that does not yet exist, or did I misunderstand that part?

    
    — Mv3    Sep 29, 10:30 AM    #

30. Will you always know that a fleet is sent to attack you the minute it is sent. If so, what is the point of having a deathstar?

    
    — Mv3    Sep 29, 10:33 AM    #

31. Noob attack.

    Why send recs with the attack, just send recs first, and time urfleet at it…

    
    — Ceasar    Nov 21, 05:39 AM    #

32. I have an idea you noobs may value…

    get a planet on its own in a solar system..

    build lvl 10 research lab..

    build lvl 5 on all resourses storage..

    then, you fools, send 1 mill of each resourse and either get graviton tech or do what i did and research lv 20 on attack tech so you wipe out medium fleets in first round. 100 bs with that tech wins everytime

    
    — Imperator-Rex    Dec 6, 10:10 AM    #

33. @Alien
    I think a battle between 1000 battle ships and a hundred destroyers would be pretty instantaneous.

    
    — Lotus    Dec 30, 02:56 PM    #

34. @ thecat

    do you have any idea how much server drain that would cause?? think. 7000 people on a server on average. multiple attacks per person. so lets say 5000 attacks happening withing 5 hours. thats poss. anyway, thats 5000 animations that arent needed, and cause so much server drain, i dont even think it is possible. sure great servers could do it, if there wasnt 5000. and sounds cause server drain. you would want the animation to have sounds right? well that would def make it impossible. sounds cause enough drain as it is.

    
    — Firefox    Feb 6, 06:26 PM    #

35. well actually there wouldnt be any sounds in space.

    
    — Rusquel    Jul 18, 09:59 AM    #

36. Not only did he lose a lot of ships, but he didn’t gain very much. Not the smartest thing anyones ever done.

    
    — Anti-anti-noob Guy    Aug 15, 12:18 PM    #

37. I hate it when them big players pick on the little guy.. i had this one player that kept raiding me repeatedly.. and mostly while i was asleep.. i was then told to do a fleetsave on deployment and set the speed to 10% then recall it when i wake up.. but i’m too lazy to do that, so i sent my fleet to one of my colonies.. no problems yet.. but im waitin on him to find me.. and @ anti-anti-noob guy… im a noob >.< he he

    
    — DETHBREATH    Oct 23, 05:19 AM    #

38. Hey i cant understand that atk. maybe if u had a massive fleet he cud kill u then just nick the debris but its stupid just to atk defences for so little resourses

    
    — jim bob    Nov 7, 08:48 AM    #

39. Ya know Imperator-Rex, If I actually HAD 838.860.000 metal and 209.715.000 crystal, I would probably consider upgrading my weapon tech to level 20. Or maybe I would build 52 deathstars and still have 578.860.000 metal left over to upgrade armour tech to level 19. 52 deathstars with 19 armour can easily take out 2000 battleships that have level 20 weapons.

    
    — Trevyr    Dec 21, 03:01 PM    #