Officers - An Overview
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Officers are new to OGame. You do have to pay for them. Looks like the prices are: $3.99 USD for one month, or $9.99 for 3 months. I don’t know if you can hire multiple officers. From the interface in OGame, it looks like you can hire multiple officers (one of each). The cost of Officers, plus Commander would be in the neighborhood of $17 USD a month to play OGame. That is if you buy everything in 3 month increments.
Here is the text descriptions from OGame about Officers.
Fleet Admiral
The fleet admiral is a experienced war veteran and skilled strategist. In the toughest combats, he is able to create an overview and contact with his subordinated admirals. A wise emperor can rely on his support in the fight, and add more slot fleets at the same time into combat.
Bonus: max. fleet slots +2
Engineer
The Engineer is a specialist on energy management. In times of peace he increases the energy of all the colonies. In case of an attack, he ensures the supply of energy to the cannons, avoiding an eventual overload, which leads to a reduced amount of losses during the battle.
Bonus: Reduces the losses of the defense by half, +10% more energy
Geologist
The geologist is a expert in astromineralogy and crystalography. He assists his teams in metallurgy and chemistry as he also takes care of the interplanetary communications optimizing the use and refining of the raw material along the empire.
Bonus: +10% mine production
Technocrat
The guild of the Technocrats is composed of genious scientists, and you will find them always over the border where all would blow up behind any technological logic. No normal humans will ever try to crack the code of a technocrat, and he inspires the researchers of the empire with his presence.
Bonus: +2 espionage level for probes, 25% less research time
Thoughts, Questions, Comments? We’d love to hear them!
I think THAT is the worst thing that ever happened to Ogame!
Please make it undone!
— master_ Feb 25, 03:58 PM #
I don’t like it either. It looks like OGame concentrates on making money.
— A player Feb 25, 11:45 PM #
You all have right. IT IS STUPID!!!!!!!!!!
— war-lord Feb 26, 08:34 AM #
I don’t like it either, but I suppose they have to give extra stuff to those who pay.
— leech Feb 26, 10:39 AM #
yeah i know how you feel. i have actually made an anti-officer banner whichi want to get circulating around OGame. So if you run an alliance please copy and past this:[img]http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a319/Dannysquirrel/antiofficercopy213.png[/img]
into your alliance page.
Please let me know if you do so i know how many people are using it.
— Psychosquirrel Feb 26, 11:07 AM #
I’ll be posting that banner.
Universe 14: no alliance yet. Universe 29: Alliance: Shadow Companyi’ve copied it to my own photobucket. and will be posting it in Universe 8 : Alliance ‘S.L.C.F.’ Salt Lake Citys Finest.
best reguards.
— Servant 777 Feb 27, 08:19 AM #
cheers dude.
it's good to see that some action is being taken.
There are several banners going about in uni 22 so hopefully soon ogame will pick up on this and consider abolishing officers.
— Psychosquirrel Feb 28, 11:41 AM #
stop officers!!
— jak Mar 3, 05:17 AM #
Guys, Guys! Somebody has to run ogame! That somebody likes to be payed! Besides all that though, whole alliances in U24 are being anti-officer, so no worries here, mate!
I’ll make sure my alliance has that pic.
— Frosch Meister Mar 4, 07:40 AM #
________________________ I am going to post the banner. univerce 18 UFOP... has like 50 members
— dontich Mar 8, 06:09 PM #
Alliance Romania in Uni 21 uses the antiofficer banner. Until now commander was a paid improvement. But all it did was improve the game-play passively. Officers gave unfair advantage. I know ogame must get money for it’s employees but the adds and officers are a bit to much. I’d cope with them if they would have gave commander for free atlast… :|
— BlueVD Mar 9, 01:03 AM #
i know it is off topic but nobody will answer what dose graviton do and is it worth getting with out the deathstar
— burnout3 Mar 12, 11:28 AM #
Yep, alliance FURY in universe 21 is now proudly displaying that banner. Ogame should be about skill, and not how much money you have. I do like the idea of commander though, which simply improves an interface.
— RedSpector Mar 13, 03:59 PM #
its sooo fun far to everyone else, the gaps between the super strong and weaker guys are just going to keep growing
— kk Mar 14, 06:51 PM #
I am also going to post it Uni. 28 PFoxxs
— Slyfoxx Mar 14, 10:30 PM #
what are fleet slots?
— tido Mar 15, 08:46 PM #
How are they supposed to offset the server costs though? it isn’t free to run. I do think its a bad idea, it will turn into something like WoW! Nooooooooooo
— B Mar 20, 11:47 AM #
Well, though I am against an unfair advantage that you have to pay for…
OGame needs money. You have any idea how much it costs to run 30 separate servers for all the Universes, and then all the other country websites? A lot. Energy, internet, domain, etc.
Though this is a crappy idea, people need to make money for a living.
— Spartan 396 Mar 21, 08:25 AM #
— burnout3
Graviton only lets you get da Deathstars. it doesnt do anything really. and yes, i should believe it is worth getting. it would make you quite popular.
anyway, on topic. i think these oficers are quite a good idea. if ur a turtle, get da engineer. umm how much wud it cost in NZ dollars?
CHEERS!!
I AM THE INTERNET!!!!
— Thecat Mar 22, 01:53 PM #
Thecat;
If you really are the internet, then you’d know how much it’d cost in NZ dollars ;)
Currency converter:
http://www.xe.com/ucc/
— LordBug Mar 25, 11:52 PM #
... just my saying
:)
i peeved some1 off soooo much on a fps that they had 2 vote whether they were the internet or not :P
hey people y is it such a bad idea? some1 plz answer. if (on the contrary) you can’t Dont call it a bad idea.
— thecat Mar 29, 03:15 AM #
Geologist, is the officer that kill ogame… it destroy the game balance
— uni13.org Apr 3, 06:54 PM #
Every officer kills ogame. This thing apsolutely turns ogame into “ogay”.
— war-lord Apr 7, 04:21 PM #
I am in universe 15, and I have posted the http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a319/Dannysquirrel/antiofficercopy213.png
for my alliance and I believe I have convinced two semi-powerful alliances to display it as well. They are Wraith and Wraith Wing
— Zelenka Apr 11, 07:17 PM #
How do you know if someone uses officers? I was attacked a few days ago for “having officers” when in fact I do not.
— Jason Apr 13, 09:05 PM #
Just play your game. I know how many fools are playing ogame ;(((
— war-lord Apr 14, 04:04 PM #
I heard was implemented even though an OFFICIAL poll was 94% against it.
— Doglord Apr 16, 01:36 PM #
officers kill the game, gives others unfair advantage,m i man really… if you have the same level mine as some guy and he has a geologist, he will be able to crank out the bigger shiips faster then you, you are basically dead.
— Gaka Apr 17, 01:14 PM #
So officers are bad, but Commander is ok yes?
— Jason Apr 19, 07:28 PM #
Officers give players a real advantage in the game. The advantage in commander is simply a better interface.
— Igor Apr 27, 07:30 PM #
i completely agree with everything said ehere and the gap bettween players is getting bigger. ps i cant get the banner to work on the forums :(
— angry kid130 Apr 28, 03:37 PM #
I think this article should mention that getting these advantages could get you running risk of being targeted by others.
— NPSF3000 May 2, 11:21 AM #
this officer thing is ridiculous sinc someone can just take a geologist or technocrat and research everything in the game and kill you with a load of deahstars and battle cruisers
— Secrets May 3, 02:45 PM #
how can they be unfair? you all have the choice to use them, maybe the fact that new players who use them might catch you up? or do you always want something for nothing?
are you worried? coming into a game where players are so far advanced seems unfair, but thats the choice & officers are your choice as well, so stop whinging.
— enough said May 6, 10:54 PM #
how can they be unfair? you all have the choice to use them, maybe the fact that new players who use them might catch you up? or do you always want something for nothing?
are you worried? coming into a game where players are so far advanced seems unfair, but thats the choice & officers are your choice as well, so stop whinging.
— enough said May 6, 10:54 PM
I COMPLETELY AGREE! you noobs! 10% extra mining can be fixed in 1 raid! fools! example :
you crank out 4000 metal PerHour. 10% = 400 extra which, on a daily basis, only gives 9.6k more metal!
techno crat: jst get a few lab lvls. ffs
Fleet Admiral: he sucks. only 2 extra fleet slots :(
Engineer: jst build more defense.
to be honest, how can u call ogame “Ogay”? ffs u wud have 2 be so loooow 2 say that.
and another thing, servers aren’t free to run. and also, thay dont give too much advantage:)
plz think this over and tell me, whos the homo, you or ogame?
— thecat May 8, 03:23 AM #
Officers suck, it gives people who play an unfair advantage…
But on the other hand if they didn’t have them, they might run out of money and OGame would go down…
— No one May 11, 10:04 PM #
i hate it if games only make the game to make money.
— pyromaan May 16, 09:10 AM #
I am against officers for the same reason I am against people buying MMORPG gold over ebay.
— zler May 17, 08:53 AM #
Oy stop using ‘gay’ as an insult.
I think they do have to exist for the sake of server bills, but, they should have made them less powerfull and maybe affect different areas such as chance of getting a moon.
— Its the way of life May 20, 05:06 AM #
to hell wiht the officers to hell with pay by pal and to hell with ogame universe 17 is now becoming anti officer!
— zulian May 20, 04:25 PM #
This is bad… It’s like letting members use thier abilities on f2p worlds on runescape. Officer users should only be able to use them on p2p only universes IMHO.
— blobzor May 26, 11:26 AM #
did i not make some sort of point?????
what kind of advantage do you GET!!!!
it isnt an unfair advantage.
take my examples i put up forward.
i have put straight to IDIOTS that is isnt a form of cheating and whatnot
hmmm, i got an idea. if you had an idea that could get you millions, would you take it? OF COURSE YOU WOULD, AND SO HAVE OGAME!!!!
“oh but thats not tha same… wawawawa”
dont post this under PLZ its so f**king annoying.
once again, read thru this and rethink your idealogy on officers.
— thecat May 28, 05:03 AM #
Your points are flawed, %10 is a HUGE advantage, so is halfing def losses. There are many good free games (Gunz), even if there is a payment option it is usually in a non-advantageus way (Such as the cash shop in mapple story). Even if payment gives a significant advantage, p2p’ers usually can’t use their advantages on f2p servers (Runescape).
So I still think it is unfair, not cheating perhaps, but unfair.
— blobzor May 29, 01:19 PM #
None of you guys are really thinking about it, yeah, it costs money to put up servers and all, but you guys do realize that any ad on the site would be worth thousands, I run a magazine in one city, and i charge $60 just for someone to put a 1/2 inch ad, they could charge a ton. So basically, this whole officer thing so they could “afford” it is a load, they are just a bunch of money-hunger jerks.
— The Truth Jun 1, 09:28 PM #
Also, thecat, enoughsaid, what if someone is doing really well in ogame, but doesnt have the money to pay for an officer, then a newbie comes in, buys all the officers, and within a month out-does the experianced players, just because their mommy or daddy has a big paycheck. Ogame is a Strategy game, not a game based on how fat your wallet is.
Well, at least it’s not supposed to be, but I’m not so sure anymore.
Also, I could see them wanting to make more money, so just put on a couple more ads, they’ll make millions off of putting 5 or so ads on there.
— The Truth Jun 1, 09:36 PM #
oh for gods sake…..
STFU about your self righteous SHIT
“bla bla bla they are money hungry jerks!!!!! blablabla bla bla”
and you aren’t greedy?
if you tell me next post you aren’t, im gonna put that on this weeks greatest joke.
you would need 14 or so engineers to lose NO defense, 10% mining = teh 1 RAID!!!!!!!!
also, starting at 0 points, and saying that this person is gonna somehow catch up to 6 MILLION pointed ppl, is utterly insane.
i thought they sounded pretty cool to begin with.
i didnt find NO serious advantage. and whats so bad about them anyways?
miner dude = you need what is it, lvl 45-46 metal mine to get around 10k extra metal PH. while i aint as experienced, 10k in most games, at that stage, is NOTHING.
technocrat dude – i find him boring. i didnt like him but i like his advantage.
fleet ad SUCKS! to hell with him.
and at The Truth, what irresponsible parents are gonna pay, what is it, $400 for some pissy game? and to add to that, its a text based!
cos thats how much you gotta pay to get a REAL, Proper advantage.
rethink what you said plz
idiot.
— thecat Jun 3, 05:09 AM #
Alright listen Mr. thecat, a few pieces of advice for you, if you’re in school, pay attention in English class, if not, you seriously need a grammer dictionary.
Now, as for the advantaes, I know plenty of rich people who would pay $400 a month for it, plus, you’re an idiot if you think only kids play on this site, I know people who are in their 30’s and 40’s playing. And you tell me, if you have level 12 computer tech. and you were rich, which would you choose, save up 800k crystal and over 1 million deut. or just pay $500, it’s not a hard decision.
And also, I’m not greedy, go to church more often and learn not to be, I’m poor and usually broke, but i still give a lot of my money to charities, churches, and homeless people on the street.
And thecat, I did rethink it, and I still mean it, you’re just probably one of those rich kids with like a mansion or something paying $100 a month to Ogame and flying through the ranks and saying “It’s my skill that’s getting me up in the ranks”
Oh, and yes, someone starting at zero could easily move up to six million in a few months with the right amount of money, think about it, buy ten Geologists and you double your mine production for half the energy, how is that fair exactly?
Besdies, you’re only thinking of it one way, sure, a raider could easily get that money, a lot of raiders don’t even have mines, but what about a turtle? Turtles get all their minerals from mines, not raiding, most turtles don’t even have a fleet.
— The Truth Jun 3, 12:27 PM #
omg
your a self righteous asshole…. saying “i pay my taxes, charity blablabla!!! i go to church every day and blablabla!!!! i aint greedy!!!”
i am not rich, nor would i EVER pay so much money for some silly game.
if you knew some1 that was turtle with what, 20 geologists, you WOULD raid him if you could.
your basis is that people with officers NEVER get attacked…..
well, he he, your wrong.
and i would rather pay 2 mill or so duet for comp tech (for the reason of points :)
your a witless buffoon. you realise NOTHING about RTS or this game. having raw power is worthless without skill, and people with officers need proper skill to even maintain them :)
and once again, what kid or adult is gonna be able to try keep up with the 6million people. they started when the uni opened more than likely!
P.S.
when you have over 10 million in your pocket, then you’ll realise what greed is :)
also, tell me, whats so wrong about people getting officers and then quitting cos people always bash them? for res, or some other reason :)
— thecat Jun 3, 05:28 PM #
Listen, I know exactly what greed is, unfortunantly, you still dont know what grammer is, so just pay attention to the way i write this and maybe people will understand you tiny little excuses a bit better.
Now, think about this, a turtle with level 20 mines can get about 4k metal and 2k crystal, and wuth a bunch of officers they can double that and make it so they never lose defenses, plus poeple who pay a lot can easily get someone bashing them banned, you point of veiw is so unorganized, why dont you read what you type before submitting it so you dont sound like such and idiot, please, for all our sakes.
Now to get back to my reasoning, let’s take two people, once started three months ago, the other started today, and let’s pretend they have the same skill level and all that when they started, meaning that the person A (the three month starter) has three months more experiance, but person B has 30 commanders, now that may seem alot, but to someone who’s making millions, its nothing, anyway, because of player B’s officers, he has already caught up with person A, so person A constantly treis to attack him to get him lower, but since person B already has ten Engineers, he loses no defense, and he just keeps making more and more little by little and sending off his fleets as soon as he makes them, because of his oficers, person B can outdo person A no problem, even though Person A has more experiance. Also, in another month or two, person B has double Peson A’s stats, and is bashing person A.
As you see in that example, officers are NOT fair. Plus you think just because you have one person you attack who has an officer you’re all big and bad, big deal, when you get crashed by someone who started three months ago, then I’ll just sit and laugh.
P.S.-thecat, PLEASE try to be more organized, your pathetic grammer and unorganized thoughts are making my head hurt.
— The Truth Jun 3, 10:41 PM #
mmm but there is a few flaws.
what person in their right mind would pay for 30 commanders. i am laughing at your idiocy right now :)
another one would be that person b would be attacked overnight as he thinks (due to inexperience) that his defense cant be crushed. but since his defenses shut down after being too badly damaged, he gets bashed and loses all his res :)
your example is pathetic. there isnt 2 people in the whole universe, you know. exampling that b never goes down is a lie, as i just explained above.
doubling mine production also, is useless until later levels. :)
i realise trying to get thru to an idiot like you is impossible, your heads too hard and ur stubborn as a mule, but i post these in tha hopes that people wont call them unfair, but something alongs the lines of ‘helping to those few noobs out there’. :)
p.s. if you know of some1 with 20 geologists, then their gonna get attacked by either you or mr ranked 300 :)
— thecat Jun 3, 11:08 PM #
ok, now your pissing me off, listen up you stupid ass, look on the poll on ogame, 80% of players say its unfair, including people using them, 10% don’t care, and only 10% think its fair, so how am i wrong? listen p you stupid ass bitch, your a tart, get over it, go to school, learn grammer, and then learn math, you need both to leep arguing with me.
p.s.-dumbass.
— The Truth Jun 4, 02:43 PM #
ah yes, but still you cant defeat what i said previously :)
just because people think it isnt fair, doesnt mean that it isnt fair. ever watched ‘Who wants to be a millionare?’ ? the audience(lifeline) thought 80% or something towards something, and got it wrong. statistics aren’t always correct, thats a fact :)
in fact, i have learnt grammer, i am just inorganised with my ideas. i dont take the time to dot it down on paper; i type whatever comes to mind :)
as you said, its for noobs, and those are the only people that will ever use them. if they had no prior knowledge of this game, it is absolutely crazy to believe they will get 6 million or so points in 3 months…..
and your the one who needs to learn math.
dummie
ur stupid!!!!
dummie!!!
and don’t call me a tart, i dont like those.
i only like strawberry ones :)
p.s. do i sense a tone of anger in your voice?
something tells me you’re gotta yell and scream to get your own way :) but sorry, that aint gonna happen with me :)
— thecat Jun 5, 12:47 AM #
aww hurry up…..
message back with your useless points :)i await them in such suspence it isnt funny …. :(
— thecat Jun 5, 05:02 AM #
No, I realize that there will always be pthetic mnds that can’t comprehend right from wrong, and cannot understand when they are wrong, so I’ll just leave you to that, because I have better things to do than sit on the computer arguing with an idiot.
— The Truth Jun 5, 12:37 PM #
Well actually Mr. The Truth you are not arguing with and idiot because you are an idiot just in case you hadn’t realized. Oh, and the other thing minds does have an ‘i’ in it. Yeah so pretty much you would have to be a homo to pay $500 a month to pay a text-based. I have on more point. Why does it really matter? It is just a game and if you are not greedy then you won’t want to be better than everybody else.
— Really The Truth Jun 5, 01:42 PM #
btw way thecat this is chapnisio
— Really The Truth Jun 5, 01:43 PM #
Actually, it’s “grammar”.
How you liek tehm alpeps?
— No, I am the truth Jun 5, 03:53 PM #
by the way I wouldn’t be going off at people for bad grammar. I will give you permission when you can spell like properly
— chapnisio Jun 5, 10:16 PM #
hahahahahahahaha
chapnis, i already told you, this is my idiot to annoy :)
— thecat Jun 6, 12:48 AM #
truth: Now to get back to my reasoning, let’s take two people, once started three months ago, the other started today, and let’s pretend they have the same skill level and all that when they started, meaning that the person A (the three month starter) has three months more experiance, but person B has 30 commanders, now that may seem alot, but to someone who’s making millions, its nothing, anyway, because of player B’s officers, he has already caught up with person A, so person A constantly treis to attack him to get him lower, but since person B already has ten Engineers, he loses no defense, and he just keeps making more and more little by little and sending off his fleets as soon as he makes them, because of his oficers, person B can outdo person A no problem, even though Person A has more experiance. Also, in another month or two, person B has double Peson A’s stats, and is bashing person A.
this makes complete sense, and thecat is a complete retard quit arguing with him
thecat: what person in their right mind would pay for 30 commanders. i am laughing at your idiocy right now :)
another one would be that person b would be attacked overnight as he thinks (due to inexperience) that his defense cant be crushed. but since his defenses shut down after being too badly damaged, he gets bashed and loses all his res :)
the guy wouldnt have to fleet save or anything cuz he has enuf officers to keep his def from even dying so stfu and think out ur ideas b4 writing.
the commanders might be unfair but just think all of u, w/o those wut game would u be playing? u wouldnt even be here to start an argument, so b4 u say wawawa not fair, think y ur saying that?
furthermore if ur all complaining its cuz u guys dont have the balls to group together and IPM the !@#$ out of all of them then own them continously, remember their fleets and def dont build faster so they can get owned after that.
Now whoever just read this is prlly thinking how contradictory this is, but thats not cuz im dumb i just take no side to a pointless argument.
— panzer Jun 7, 07:51 PM #
okay…..
people that are inexperienced die. thats a fact in every aspect of, well, everything! including animal kingdom, video games and other things, like use of condoms.
i was arguing on The Truth’s argument cos it was completely crzy! as i said, there aren’t 2 ppl in the universe! can u say i did not provide my thoughts on y i thought it was a silly example hmmmm?
okay panzer, that comment about my 30 OFFICERS was perfectly correct. their defense may not DIE, but they shut down and don’t work after too much damage has been sustained. learn to read properly….. cos it says it quite plainly that they dont die, but it never said they don’t sustain damage and shut down…..
you learn to argue correctly….
this isn’t pointless, it proves i am invincible and must be screamed and yelled at for them to win :)
— thecat Jun 8, 05:23 AM #
maybe they shut down but if they have enuf defences it would be pointless atking them getting nowhere
— panzer Jun 8, 03:38 PM #
you mustnt have got wat i was speaking about….
when people who are inexperienced think they are invincible, are they really gonna fleetsave or anything? they would just leave their res to rot until some1 bashes them. that is what i meant…..
— thecat Jun 8, 04:17 PM #
next time make it clear wut u mean and dont make ppl try and guess wut ur saying
— panzer Jun 9, 11:15 PM #
i made it perfectly clear….
i win this argument. no1 has properly defeated me as such yet, so that means that officers aren’t unfair :)
— thecat Jun 10, 03:08 AM #
or that ur gay either one no1 cares
— panzer Jun 11, 04:41 PM #
ive posted the banner
— Gaka Jun 11, 07:18 PM #
awesome its soo cool that every1 has to swear or cus to get their own way…. what a bummer…
and y do you post the banner? ive just proved they arent unfair mmmm?
so whatever happened to the people up the top that said it was unfair? changed your tune have we?
— thecat Jun 11, 11:18 PM #
1 thing ive noticed bout officers is depending on which simulator u use some don’t offer the officers bonus so u cant sim correctly, thus making it rlly hard for some1 to figure out how to kill some1 efficiently
— panzer Jun 13, 09:02 AM #
that is really irrelevent, cos there is no officer that effects direct combat, only survival of defense
— thecat Jun 13, 10:18 PM #
hey The Truth, i thought the truth never went away? where did u go? im just here waiting 4 u or some1 else to try defeat me in this argument.
— thecat Jun 14, 07:41 PM #
It does affect direct combat in a way, because (a) if you have higher esp. tech. then if someone trys to see what you have and can’t that alters how they attack or change there mind all together, and that said person with the added higher tech. from the officer gets an unfair advantage, (b) the higher mines from the begining are helpful but when you start talking about a level 28 and a or that pluse 10% on 9 planets for that mine for what ever resource thats a big differance, and if you start using officer at the begin of the start of a new uni. that could be the difference between like 300 and a top one-hundred spot.
Oh and “you all have the choice to use them”
doesn’t work because (a) it’s suppose to be a free game in the first place (b) if you can’t afford it (i can but i wont buy it because the game i thought was suppose to be for everyone, so what if a 12 year old spends a lot of time and then finds out he’s getting out worked by some people hitting him because they have officer.
Also if you get all the extra little suff then your saving resources that you can put into a fleet.
To say the truth as something that ogame did, I am not aganst it, but as how it will affect the newest uni.‘s I think it is a very bad idea!
— js35wake uni-28 Jun 14, 08:23 PM #
in my old acct i was able to make about 50 bships a day just from mines, imaginbe that doubled cuz of an officer advantage, some1 can make 1000 bships in 10 days thats almost 36000 bships a year just from mines alone, now ur telling me thats a fair advantage cat? ur arguments r reasnable but wen a player has higher stuff it becomes too powerful.
— panzer Jun 14, 09:21 PM #
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js i was talking of ‘direct combat’ as in weps, shielding and armour. those are the only thing (other than ship numbers) that affect the outcome of a battle… learn english so i dont have to rain on your sille example.
now onto panzer :
people raid like mad in later ages, sometimes making up to millions of res units. getting 50 bships in 1 day, however, is usually imposible without nanites, due to time taken off…. did you have nanites?
okay, now moving onto costs :)
50 bships =
2,250,000 metal
750,000 crystal
at later ages, this can be raided in a matter of hours.
oh yeah, did i forget 2 mention, the metal output of your mines would have to be around 80k metal per hour. something tells me your either lying, or had 9 colonys that had an output of 10k metal per hour. DONT THINK SO. your a cheap liar, cos not even people in top 10 of uni 5 have that sort of mines on 9 planets. thats around lvl 27 metal on all your planets. and dont say’aww i was talking about raiding aswell as mines’ because you have said nothing about raiding…..
new unis; what person would buy officer so early? they only take effect at later ages, and even then the effects are minimal.
extra little stuff my ass. when you’re talking 10 mill res, 10k doesn’t mean anything, unless times by 10, then it might mean something.
think of what your raving on about before posting….
and below in next post, dont say im dumb shit, fuck ass, homo ass licker or anything like that. only proves i win these arguments :)
— thecat Jun 15, 03:40 AM #
ok I wont say those words; but try to annunciate something when your talking so everyone knows what your talking about thecat.
Anyway through reading all this I know that this debate will keep going but I want to sum up everything that I mean, so it really covers the whole idea of why I’m arguing this.
Officer is fine for a short term thing like progame, I think that would be alright, but overall I’m worried that as the game in new uni.‘s keeps getting older and an officer keeps getting used (no matter how big or little an advantage) that said advantage will keep widening and have an affect that will make a widening gap for any plalyer that does not have those added affects.
You keep ranting on about being directly affected by a fleet with officers thecat, but everything affects everything in ogame one way or another so the tech’s, like I said in my pervious post because of up mines and the ableness to use resources for other things like weapon tech. does directly help a fleet.
You do make some valid points thecat, but, again, your to focused on one thing when that one thing (raiding) is entwined into a bunch of other affects and events that happen in an ogame uni.
Oh and stop saying “only proves I win these arguments” thecat, the only way you will get respect from the people on the side of my opinion is if you stop acting full of your self.
AND that goes for all the people that have similar opinions that I have, disagree with the officers, yes I still don’t like them, but show the other side some respect and both sides should really listen to what each has to say, not bash each other on thing that have nothing to do with ogame.
Oh and for the people who just bash people who have officers this is my personal message: DON’T, its stupid first, sencond, they are funding ogame as much as I hate to say it, so stop beating up on the little guys, they might only be 12 and just want to have fun and your ruining there expperienne and that person might quit now, and never come back. And not only is that sad it is bad because it is just a game, and it does need funding so if all the officers leave what will we do to keep ogame going (actually a question!), thats the argument I think my side needs to be making because I want officers out but also to find another way to fund this brilliant and still not joyless game, yet (because of officers).
Oh and if you still need to take out an officer in ogame take on some in the top 100 or something with acs with a buch of friends, that will balance out the game more I think.
— js35wake uni-28 Jun 15, 06:02 AM #
Oh one thing I forgot to add in, It is just as importaint to have it at the begining because if you never get bashed because your esp. tech is high and you start making ships faster then others, then your on your way that much fast to get a lead in the uni. that is unparalleled and breaking away as early as possible everone knows you need to do so people don’t start ganging up on you later if you choose to wait to use officer, but even so it might take longer to up your advantage if you wait a while, but any advantage will become known in a never ending uni.
— js35wake uni-28 Jun 15, 06:21 AM #
thecat y would i be lying about my mine lvls? all 9 planets had lvl 27, it sounds nuts, but at first i used to be a turtle until some guy n his friends IPMed me, then i decided to stick with fleet building thats wen i noticed that my mines were able to make a shitload of bships a day i had lvl 4 nanite thats 1 bships every 6 minutes so now think 6 minutes x 50 battleships = 300 minutes or 5 hours, not long is it? imagine an officer who can double that output for only double the time, 100 bships in 10 hours,
now r u gonna tell me thats a fair advantage? if so id like to see u run after the officers who play this way
— panzer Jun 15, 07:36 AM #
1 question i had, does the +2 fleet slots give u 2 comp tech? cuz if it did u can save alot of time going for nanites, then thats rlly unfair
— panzer Jun 15, 07:45 AM #
no…. dummie
when you make 27 metal, people with heaps of ships are going to raid you. ‘is that a fair advantage they have?’ not really but they dont care. i can also see that lvl 27 metal mine(all mine levels added up) costs around 6million metal. times it by 9 and you’ve got this number: 61,359,147 metal. thats no crystal or solar plant added. and you were solidly a turtle? dont think so….
your points are flawed, js36wake. people that have experience in this game fly higher than people with advantages. ... how do i get the message through to you ppl.. lolz hmm.
well, i must say, its taken me a bit of time, but i found solution. espionage, is easy as piss to get up. but of course, you haven’t learnt english.. read properly, it says ‘+ 2 levels of espionage TO YOUR PROBES.’ lets sum this down. basically, if i have lvl 12 espo tech, then i would see on other planets what lvl 14 people would see (if i had the technocratical dude). people would espionage me and see lvl 12 espionage. this is where many people are decieved about the advantages.
i started about 2 weeks ago on uni 5, and have had heaps of experience. my mate had like 2 geologists, and i went about 3x faster than him up the ranks…..
but i must admit, you do have a few valid points js. yes it can affect new unis, but really when oyou do think of it, people that started that uni the instant that it came out, would have a little headstart.
but panzer, think of what you say BEFORE you say it….
i love this argument. i have had soo much to read and it is soo fun
— thecat Jun 15, 04:42 PM #
i can bring a witness if ud like who can admit the lvl 27 mines, hes the one who gave me the acct, stop assuming everything and callin ppl liars, ur saying top ranking ppl dont have lvl 27 mines its not that hard to get u know, like u said a days raid can make millions so before u criticize wut other ppl write look at wut u write and see if itll actually make sense.
— panzer Jun 15, 09:23 PM #
Well of course if you spend more time then the other person for those two weeks thecat, or they get attack a lot and you don’t, then of course you would be ahead. I think the argument was (at least mine) if you spend the same amount of time and know the basics of the game, someone with the officers will get ahead eventually and keep on going from there.
like I’ve said, the long hull is what I’m worried about not the short term. The short term of course the more knowledgeable player normally will have the better luck (skill).
But if you took a good player and set him on one side of the uni. and sent another player who knows the basics on the other side (with the officers), and set it up where they both played the amount of time and ran into about the same amount of good and bad luck in a year they would meet and not only would the officer player be close in knowledge of the game now, but would have a much higher rank and amount of points. And that’s the out come I don’t want to happen.
— js35wake uni-28 Jun 15, 10:14 PM #
ahh yes now i understand js… :) that arguments all cool. nothing wrong with what you said, so i cant outvalidate it.. :(
@ panzer now
what person goes and gets 27 metal mine on every single planet he has? most top ppl dont have all 9, but more or less 5-4 (for safety reasons). a witness, could be you in another alias… lolz + people would prefer to make Battleships so they raid MORE, if you spend 61 mill metal, thats around 1.5k bships, and many people hav a low patience lvl, meaning they wont wait for res, but instead spend them right there and then…. that is unarguable…
— thecat Jun 15, 11:24 PM #
u know wut thecat its useless arguing with u cuz ur so hard headed y cant u believe i had 27 mines? i used to be a turtle i relied on mines alot so thinkg about it w/o high mines i woulda never been able to make a good D and thus wouldnt have been a turtle. just because u dont beleive it that doesnt mean it never happened. in my old uni i knew ppl with lvl 28 and some 29, its not that hard to get, think about wut u said some1 can make millions of res in the matter of hours by raiding. so if some1 raids alot isnt it normal that theyll have enuf res to build better mines? yeh of course ppl would much rather spend it on ships, (which i learned after being IPMed) but that doesnt mean ppl WONT spend it on mines.
— panzer Jun 16, 08:54 AM #
hmm but what person gets 9 colonies and builds 27 mines on ALL of them, it only shows how nooby you really are… how many times did the colonies gt attacked? 3 time, 4x a day? it never happened face it. and also, you asked such a nooby q, ’1 question i had, does the +2 fleet slots give u 2 comp tech?’. this furthermore proves your noobiness. i could believe you had lvl 27 mines if you WERENT a turtle, but a raider.
no it isnt normal that they WILL get the mines, but more ships to raid with :) i havent seen many raiders saving 61 mill metal…
with 9 colonies, yes it can be possible to get the res, but you would hav 2 send the res they make off to some planet, which would be targeted alot. ...
still tho, you havent disproved what i said just above, thats a bit fishy. ranting on and yu havent even outvalidated what i said… lolz
are you sure that ‘hard headed’ quote didnt come from a post up a little further that I wrote in hmmmmm?
hey js35, i would like 2 hear from you again, see if you find anything else wrong with these ‘officers’, since this is what we are arguing about, NOT some n00b claiming he was a turtle 27 mines on 9 colonies….
— thecat Jun 16, 04:08 PM #
k u know wut even if i am noob in ogame like u claim i can prlly own u in it and furthermore i prlly own u in real life, ur a kindve 12 yr old kid who hides at his computer and just tries to diss ppl across the net wen u prlly get beaten up all the time, u continuously mock ppl who r here to give an OPINION which cannot be wrong no matter wut its personal, opinions r just wut some1 thinks, u can argue an opionion but u cant put it down like wut u do, that shows ur noobiness, now enuf said id like to see wut u say to this not thatll be much cuz ur so dumb u cant even put ur thoughts together like the truth mentioned above.
— panzer Jun 16, 09:01 PM #
just to prove i wasnt lying
Metal Mine (level 27)
Used in the extraction of metal ore, metal mines are of primary importance to all emerging and established empires.
Requirements: Metal: 3.408.907 Crystal: 852.226
Construction Time: 19h 22m 7s upgrade
level 28
— panzer Jun 16, 09:01 PM #
hokay, so i am a 12 year old. but now, i refer to the anger bit of my speech i had a little bit up there. and now your calling me dumb… :) i just prved i win this, you just called me dumb. no i am never beaten up because im too good with words. okay, lets move on to your opinion part. its your OPINION yu hav 27 metal mine. :) no1 can prove you did other than your word, buddy so sorry. im arguing, not sitting here listening to our rights of opinions. thats just a way to get around defeating what i said above….....
on ogame, can you get 2k points and hyperdrive 4 in 2 weeks? cos i did, no officers or commander.
and still i ask the question, how often did your planets get attacked? i had colonies much lower, all 9 and they were attacked constantly. the only way i accumulated res was sending all i had left to my research planet (the one with 11 research) and even then, i could only hold 600k metal b4 it got attacked.
— thecat Jun 16, 10:40 PM #
okay… stupid thing deleting my post grr
okay, panzer, how old are you, 2? ur brain size is atleast, and bringing up opinion in this little debate process is useless. if debates ran on opinion, the world would have been destroyed 20000000 years ago.
if this is about opinion, then it is your OPINION that you hav 27 metal mines, and you really only have 10. lolz
still, you havent done some things. like haven’t disproved anything. or havent answered how often your coloniess got attacked… :) mine(they sucked)were attacked daily, very often every day.
you are DEFEATED and can’t face it…
— thecat Jun 16, 10:48 PM #
I thought this should be acounted for in here for what was said in the topic of Being A Uber-Turtle.
...quotes in that topic…
Panzer “guys is it natural for a turtle to have lvl 27 metal mine on all planets”
js35wake “yah I know people in my old uni. that had those high of metal mines.”
Panzer “yeh well thecat in officers topic is saying its impossible”
what I was going to add was in that topic, was “ I am not going to agree with thecat at all, though, in my opinion I think he is saying what does it matter the exact level, “were” already past that in the topic where it is indifferance and does not matter anymore for something like that in this argument. I’m not saying the idea is bad but the exact amount of anything for this topic is not going to help either side. You used an example and that’s fine, whether thecat believed you or not you got what you wanted across and that is that. There is now no point pursuing that said point anymore becuase you can’t make someone believe or not believe something in this forum unless they themselves decide to change there own mind.”
ok now that was said, I truely do think that if something is said in here say it and be done with it. If it needs to go on, so be it, but make it have a selfless point, then have something to prove in your own satisfaction.
Also thecat antagonizing another back and forth makes you also act a bit childish.
Now on topic once again, since there has been no actual progress in the topic I can’t put in my opinion, so I suggest that for anyone else reading this we move on.
— js35wake uni-28 Jun 17, 05:21 PM #
i may act childish, but still people forget what this argument is about; officers are unfair or fair. idiotmicidiot (panzer) was going on about his nooby mines and how unoften he got attacked and ‘opinion’ (woooooo) umm putting your little forces together and saying crap like that, i must say, is soooo immature. how much did he pay u to say that?
when some1 defeates me, ill put in more of my Tuth, not opinion.
— thecat Jun 17, 11:47 PM #
Don’t you get it, or maybe you already do, no one can win and espacially not someone who says they can’t lose; and further more I am not on the side of getting rid of officers just changing them like I’ve said, and you know I’ve made my point clear thecat.
Oh and I’m not going to start this little game of “who is the biggest villiage idiot” with either of you. The only thing you were right about was we need back on topic, and you both were going on about his (panzer) mines. Just coming up with what ever un-decent comment on another person unless they agree with you is a very sad ordeal, it is so horrible isn’t it. Of course you will come back with another dumb remark and this will keep going, so try me, that is my offer, but don’t ever say that I will be down graded to your childish games. I am not going to pay attention to anything other then topic anymore. So rant all you want, but I really and truly do not care to do this name game.
...Now a little different look at officers; since the only way you get things, or get them stronger is research or buildings, you get 10% more mines right, well at the beging of a uni. it is importaint to establish yourself right away, and with the mines you don’t get a lot, but with the esp. tech. you do so people can’t see what you really have. I think instead of cuting out the officers we need to limite them to one at a time, that way (like thecat has been saying) the better player will win, (so to speak). My point is that there is always one of them (the officers) that is going to be an advantage, but when the uni gets older they all do, so if the officers are limited to you can only buy one at a time then when that runs out, and you can buy that again for like the 1 month period or get a different one.
— js35wake uni-28 Jun 18, 07:43 AM #
mm yes js35 that is very correct about tha 1 officer thing. but to be honest, in uni 5, i haven’t noticed anything about officers helping anyone yet, may have 2 wait till im 5k points.
ontopic: 1 thing forgotten (or misconcieved) is that technocrat will allow u to get 2 espo tech right at the start of the game. THIS IS NOT TRUE AND IS A COMPLETE LIE. if im wrong tell me, but this is what i seem to be getting out of reading this… :) now, getting better can also be in shipwise, not just research or buildings. but they play a huge part. lol anyways, i cant argue further, you’ve said only to change them, im here to argue they are fair, and now that there arent ppl here 2 argue with atm, ill rest my case :)
p.s. dont even think for 1 second that that is long period tho
— thecat Jun 18, 11:25 PM #
lets say some1 gets enuf technocrats or w.e its called and is able to shave off 200% of the research time that would speed things up by alot and u cant say no to that, ur prlly gonna say ok build more research labs but if u do theyre researching faster. eventually they will have to upgrade to higher lvls but at those speeds they can research stuff in under an hour and gain a good advantage, its reasonable if they can only get 1 or 2 then yes its more fair but at an unlimited amount it gets unfair and u cant disagree the cat.
— panzer Jun 19, 06:39 PM #
actually i can disagree. what person does gets 8 technocrats?
okay, lets move onto 1 research i find much like the technocrat but a little lest costing.
IRN. that shaves time off research by heaps of time. so think of it, if i created an article (which i cant, but anyway) and told ppl that it was too overpowering , e.g. ‘Look at this and that and blablabla’. i could make them believe everything i said. think about it, 15 research lab on every planet (you said u have lvl 27 metal mines and solar, so y cant this happen?) and had lvl 8 Intergalactic research network, that is 15 × 9 = lvl 130 RL. and with 130RL, lots of things are finished early….
oh there’s one thing i love about this argument, i disproved the geologist, go onto engineer, disprove him and now im undermining the technocrat.
ill do fleet admiral later :)
— thecat Jun 19, 11:39 PM #
no but earlier we were talking about how ppl pay for many at a time so if they get enuf technocrats early game they can get to the higher researches faster, and they can just cancel the payment wuts they buy IRN. thecat just think about future universes, right now ppl can beat the officers in other unis because they r higher, AT THE MONET, but in new unis wen ppl start off with officers they can get an early lead, wut if theres an experienced player who decides to buy officers. he can soar trough the ranks.
— panzer Jun 20, 02:00 PM #
at the moment
— panzer Jun 20, 02:00 PM #
meh who cares.
every1 knows that the earliest uni’s never survive
— thecat Jun 20, 10:59 PM #
Ok thecat, I decided a while ago to leave you and your dumb little arguements to yourself, but now you’re just ticking me off, and I really hope that your the SuperGameOperater, because then everyone could see how even Ogame staff can be an idiot, Anyway, you say you can raid millions of res. a day, ok, fine, I agree with that, hell I’ll even agree that someone with level 16-20 mines won’t get too much of an advantage from offficers, but, someone who is a turtle with lvl 30 mines and a lot of defenses, there is only two ways of raiding him, 1. is obviously attacking him, but if he never looses defenses in combat, you won’t be able to get through his defenses for too long, and 2. is IPM’s, which could be easily dealt with by having ABM’s. Ok continuing onward, now you also say you can get 1 mil or so res a day from raiding, suppose you have level 10 computer tech and you only send out waves of attacks once a day, but you max out your fleet slots, now that would mean you get about 100,000 res per attack, now add the two new fleet slots, so instead of getting 1 mil a day, you’ll get 1.2 mil, that .2 mil can be extremely helpful, it could be the differance between winning a fight and loosing. Now, I’m not trying to insult you, bu I’ve listened to your points thecat, and I’ve thought about them, now PLEASE look at mine and think about them as I did yours, and IF you can seriously pull out an explination for each officer that clearly shows there is no possible way that officers give an advantage, I’ll admit you won the argumentm but if I can find anyway that your explinations are unfair or not correct, then I win.
Do we have a deal?
— The Truth Jun 20, 11:54 PM #
Seems Mr. thecat has chickened out, well, that means I win by default.
— The Truth Jun 21, 09:56 PM #
noo, i just haven’t been able to get at a computer…
i could say the same thing, you chickened out for a long time, rethink some things.
okay, time to prove to the world that officers aren’t unfair and gain little to no advantage.
okay, lets do the Technocrat now
His ‘advantage’ is useless. 25%, is 1/4, which is useless, unless multiplied by 4, which can be achieved through IRN. when you raid enough, resources are easy to get and therefore, research is too.
Engineer
he makes it so your defenses survive 85% of the time. not much if you ask me.
10% onto energy will only affect some cost of graviton, and yea while in later ages this extra ammount can be massive, then with higher energy = more raiding on you. not much of an advantage there now?
Fleet admiral
as i explained before, res is easily raided, and therefore so is research easily made. people wouldnt infact, get this officer if they could get computer tech. not too much advantage, if none
Geologist
10% mine production is a bit later on, but then that little bit of extra res will lead to a number of say 9mill and make you too profitable to not attack.
no advantage there, now is there?
.2 mill can be raided in 1 hour against your next door neighbor.
Here’s one thing NONE of you can outprove.
every officer can be countered by either 1 level of mines, a lvl of IRN, Comp Tech, a few more defenses and more sats/solar plant lvls.
that shud sum up my proof i have given.
okay, 30 mines = 1050 extra crystal, 1500 extra metal and like 300 extra deuterium. with all the colonies linked together, that is only 300k extra crystal, probably like 350k metal and probably 50k deut.
hardly an advantage, that can be raiding in 1 attack…..
to sum up, there isnt an advantage they give that can’t be countered or has a downside, making it hardly an advantage :)
— thecat Jun 22, 12:55 AM #
oh yea 1 more thing i forgot to ad… does it not say up the top that you can only hire 1 officer of each type, from what voidhawk has said? from what i’ve heard, he’s quite an experienced player.
— thecat Jun 22, 03:35 AM #
AND 1 MORE thing i forgot to add,
if i find anything wrong with your outvalidatings of my proof, i win
ive been waiting ages, please come bakc soon so i can defeat your arguments
— thecat Jun 22, 02:55 PM #
Ok, you say that 25% is not a lot, but if have something that’s going to take 4 days to research, then taking off an entire day of research time can be a huge help.
Also, the %10 more mines can be a huge help, if you are an Uber-Turtle, and you get about 6k metal and 2.5k metal per hour that means you can build 4 Light Lasers per hour,multiply that by 24 for the hours a day and you get around 96 LL, now with the %10 bonus, you can make around 104 LL, that may not seem like a lot more, but a true Ogame player would know that 8 LL can mean the differance between winning a fight and losing a fight, and even if you lose the fight, with the Engineer, you will only lose about 15 LL, and gain another 104 the next day, while someone without either will make 96 a day and lose about 30, now, consider at the end of the month how much defense each will have, the one without commander will have about 2016 LL, while the one with commander will have 2703, thats a 687 differance in defenses, now THAT seems like wuite a nice advantage.
Also, with the extra fleet slots, as I said before, if you max out your fleet slots at 10 fleets and got 1 mill rescources from it, then with the extra 2 slots you can receive an additional .2 mil or 200,000 rescources a day, now does another 200,000 a day sound fair? Not really.
One more point, the additional energy can help a lot with mines aswell, If you have a solar plant that puts out 10,000 energy an hour, that means with the 10% bonus you’ll recieve an extra 1,000 energy, thats alot, it can power another level or two of a mine on its own. I just proved, by using facts, that these are not fair, your logic is all opinion, that’s why YOU say it is fair but have no logical way to prove that what your saying is right, I just proved my point using math and using the actually facts. Now I know you, you’ll say blah blah blah that’s not true, but there’s no way around it, there is NO logical way to prove me wrong.
Final answer: I WIN
— The Truth Jun 22, 06:11 PM #
ah but there is a few things i have to mention
your ONLY looking at the good parts. basically, if this were a maths equation of 0+x-x, you’re forgetting to minus the x.
i was working on the argument of whereever an advantage, there is a disadvantage, and vise versa. you focused only on the good bits, which made my illogical things here possible ^^
okay, 1 day with IRN can be shaven off! and easily at that!
when i was a turtle, i theorectically shud hav had around 100 Plasma cannons, but what happened was they were bashed :( and IPM’ed. people will attack you if they know you can produce that number of res. and 8LL makes NO difference. only on a long period.
you seem to forget the power of bombers. if i were a turtle hater and bashed them for fun, it would take around 5 bombers per day to take down that kind of defence.which is only a measly 250k metal, 175k crystal and 75k deuterium. this is achieved in 1 raid.
2 comp tech is achieved in like soon. and most raiders have like 15 comp tech, half the time not even ‘spending’ up to 8 of their fleets. i haven’t seen 1 person yet (ive seen around 17 ppl get past 50k) that has been so organised and fleetwise to even think of sending out (!)6(!) fleets!
additional energy will mean extra mines, which = more raiding and wailing on you. :)
i knew you. i had you fooled from the start. you think you’re sooo clever, trapping me in something like that. WELL HERES A NEWS FLASH! I JUST DISPROVED YOU!
HAHAHAHA
p.s. some1 with commander doesn’t get faster mine production
— thecat Jun 23, 01:01 AM #
Ok, this is still not sinking into your head, yea you COULD get bashed if you were a turtle, and you COULD raid to get the extra rescources, but where does it say you will? What you’re “proving” is only an opinion.
— The Truth Jun 23, 12:25 PM #
okay dude
have you ever had 9 colonies?
mine were minimal mines, but they were bashed daily… and they had an okay defense, usually around 2k laser, 2k Rockets, a few ABM’s and like 60 gauss
everyone knows as a turtle, you’re gonna get bashed
and you just outvalidated what you said up there, that its optional to raid, so that means people wont use up all their fleet slots, let alone using 1 of the additional 2 from the fleet admiral ^^
you didnt disprove what i said just up there.
so final answer, I WIN!
— thecat Jun 23, 03:21 PM #
LOL
FUCK U ALL COS’ U R ALL WRONG. NOW GO GET FUCKED AND IF U THINK DIFFERENTLY E-MAIL ME AT gogetfucked@hotmail.com
— FUCK Jun 23, 10:07 PM #
WDF? you make no sense. we are fighting over 2 things and those are the only 2 things, so 1 of us is right…
must mean I WIN!!! W00t!
— thecat Jun 24, 12:20 AM #
Not really thecat, now I’m going to quote you on this “that its optional to raid, so that means people wont use up all their fleet slots, let alone using 1 of the additional 2 from the fleet admiral ^^” now just because raiding is optional, that doesn’t mean they won’t use the fleet slots, I use up ALL my fleet slots when I attack.
— The Truth Jun 24, 02:22 AM #
how comes you use all your fleet slots when you attack? i only use 2: the fleet and then some recyclers
— chickenman Jun 24, 08:52 AM #
I send out like 11 fleets to differant planets so i can maximize my raiding income.
— The Truth Jun 24, 02:41 PM #
most people (thoguh they have the oppourtunity) dont…
usually you will need commander to be so organised, and not have a laggy computer…
just because they COULD doesnt mean they will… as you just said up there but still you missed out the +x-x thing you’ve gotta add :)
so now i win?
— thecat Jun 25, 12:21 AM #
hello? have i won yet?
— thecat Jun 26, 02:59 AM #
compared to some of the other threads I’ve been reading, this one is just childish. I have to sort through insults and worse just to get a picture of what anyone’s trying to say. Nice escalation…I’m not sure if anyone with half a brain is left reading this, but just in case…
I read earlier that someone said ‘What kind of person gets 8 techno crats.’
What kind of person buys enough officers to make a freaking car payment? Answer: the kind of person with nothing else to do, looking for that unfair advantage that he/she can’t get banned for. Someone so deep into the game that they could care less about what its doing to gameplay. I’m relatively inexperienced at this game, I haven’t even played for a week yet. But I have studied economics, and I work inthe military, strategy is something I deal with on a nearly daily basis in teh real world, not some screen with make-believe worlds on it. I enjoy this game as a relaxing outlet for the day. (several hours at a night, but I have a family too) Honestly I didn’t even know you could buy multiple officers of the same type until I read this so called ‘discussion.’ Absolutely that’s unfair. there could be some strategic wizard out there competing for the top seat in his uni with some rich kid who played a few strategy games here and there; who’s really the better player? the person paying out the arse for an in-game advantage, or the one making more happen with less? In a snapshot scenario (let’s look at just a few hours or day) the advantage officers gives is clear, but it makes sense taht otehr players can still overcome that. Now take that snapshot and hold it up next to a larger picture. Even mere weeks can show an incredible difference, months leaves an almost unbridgeable gap depending on how muc hsomeone decided to budget towards playing the game on their paycheck that month. And in only one month’s time you can do a lot with that. What if someone gets a bonus and decides hey, I’m gonna buy as much as I can afford to for just one month, and see where I get? I shouldn’t have to paint that picture. I’m sure the people reading this still have an imagination.
And let’s not forget there’s an immense downside to buying officers for the account holder too. Well, I’ll amend that. there are a few. First and foremost, the popular opinion holds that if you have officers, you’re going down. People who otherwise had no beef with you will side against you simply because you use officers. And oh, heaven forbid you have a change inyour financial situation after you’ve played with those advantages for a while…if you suddenly lose all those little benefits, you’re just that much more of a target for those players watching out for you. And depending on how much you’ve abused the system, you may be in a class way over your head so far as experience goes, having ridden as high as you are on the sheer amount of resources/armament you could produce. Using officers now just sets you up for a fall, adn it was a bad idea to begin with. Gee, let me pay for an advantage on a strategy game that others might not be able to meet. Did noone at Ogame think that would piss people off?!
— Seandacht Jun 26, 02:12 PM #
you cant get more than 1 officer anyways….
if you’re in the army, you wouldnt have hours or ANY time to play a silly game such as the one we are speaching of.
okay, heres the real advantage for people: being over 900k points.
i have been up to 30k and lost it all. people continually bash me and i couldnt do anything. even with 500 officers(impossible) i couldnt do it. in this game, experience overcomes any advantage.
your argument is based on millions of officers… as i said, this isnt possible… obviously people wouldnt pay money of those ammounts even if they could…
lets think… you say you’re in a war place, right? well, the designers of wepons just happened to ‘accidently’ make a new weapon. instead of focusing on the costs of the new weapon, they decide to make them for the advantage over enemy…
thats the same situation with officers
lolz abusing the system. thats worse than saying stepping others in rugby is cheating LOL
no they wouldnt think of how much it would piss people off. purely because they thought homo’s wouldnt go ahead and say they are stupid. most people here are just foloing the masses…
oh yes, lets study economics will working as a soldier ^^ what a lie….or are you in there just to get a degree?
— thecat Jun 26, 11:23 PM #
thecat y do u insult everyone that makes a comment? y do u think every1s a liar? u base nothing on facts and claim u win. STFU for once and let others speak instead of shooting down wut they say, ur an ignorant SOB with nothing better to do but bother ppl. some1s gonna give u a beating one day if it alrdy hasnt happened. and if it has ur just trying to act cool over the internet where no1 can touch u, pussy move,
— iwonder Jun 26, 11:37 PM #
proof positive that even a monkey, properly trained, can use the internet.
I’m a United States Marine you little punk. Don’t question my integrity and I won’t point out your idiocy. You can indeed take clooege classes while in the military, and I didn’t say I was in a war zone, just that I deal with strategy a LOT. I’m not sure what you’re trying to say regarding weapons development…try using normal speech. Break it down simple for the stupid lying Marine. Go ahead. In fact, here’s my email, so that when you do try to flame me again, I can reply with a good old-fashioned ass chewing so bad your mother tries to sue me for emotional abuse to her poor innocent baby boy. Don’t try to bullshit with me son. blue6694xj@hotmail.com
Now onto the regular conversation…can anyone clear up whether or not you can buy multiple officers, or just one of each? That’s an important point to this discussion.
— Seandacht Jun 27, 10:07 AM #
cause frankly, its hard to take anything thecat has to say seriously in this thread. It makes good sense that you can only buy one of each, and hopefully that’s the case.
I noticed that in other comment threads he/(she?) seemed to be talking rational enough…MPD or something?
— Seandacht Jun 27, 12:13 PM #
@ Iwonder
i would pwn you, both in ogame and real life.
okay, whateva, i’d own you in ogame more than likely, but probably not real life. but thats what seandacht is going on about.
i’d like YOU to take in anything i’ve said hypocrite ^^
@seandacht
okay, your a rine. whateva. so you would know about the uranium 235 poisoning in Iraq? and to be honest, (straight) rines DONT get angry with a little kid… how many times have you been bummed now? 16? 23?
on topic.
you havent disproved ANYTHING i have said, so that means that its gotta be true ^^ its proved by me, not disproved by you, basically a fact.
i was talking about advantages. if they designed new weapons and only issued them to you, people would be pissed but they have to live with it.
plz some1 disprove me i wanna gun some1 down.
— thecat Jun 28, 01:28 AM #
ALright look thecat, you are not proving anything, everything you say is all substantial, meaning that yes in some situations it’s true, but not in all, here’s a basic fact:
Officers give an advantage to people who pay, that’s all there is to it, plain old fact. Also, your logic with the military having better guns, well no shit they’re gonna make better guns and weapon systems, the military doesn’t want to lose a war, no one said it would be fair, but then again, the military and war is not on online text-based game now is it?
On another point, this is to seanacht, from what I’ve heard you can only get one of each officer, but I’m not sure (I don’t waste money on these kinds of things).
On last thing, this part is to Iwonder, thank you for actually telling thecat what he really is.
— The Truth Jun 28, 02:18 PM #
well someone had to tell him.
— iwonder Jun 28, 05:02 PM #
thecat you know what makes me think that you are a noob? this quote right here
“try this one.
i’ve been playing ogame for ages now and i got myself the perfect fleet.
100k light fighters
unstoppable!!!!” by thecat
a pure cruiser fleet would decimate that without a problem.
cuz for the same price of those 100k LFs you can buy nearly 14000 cruisers which would eradicate all the light fighters while suffering no more then 100 cruisers.
these r the figures i received
Losses attacker 300.000.000 Metal, 100.000.000 Crystal, 0 Deuterium
Losses defender 1.605.800 Metal, 562.030 Crystal, 160.580 Deuterium
atker = 100k LFs
defender = 14000 cruisers
Light Fighter 0
Cruiser 13919.71
those numbers show how much would be left of each fleet.
so much for saying your not a noob and that you can beat anyone easily in ogame. that proves your noobness. AND I PROVED IT WITH REAL FACTS. so there ive made my point i win shut up never come back here again.
— Panzer Jun 28, 05:25 PM #
Panzer, that all may be true, but you have to realize one more fact of the matter, thecat is a stupid dumbass who doesn’t know fact from fiction, he’s probably watching Sci/Fi and thinking it’s all real.
And to thecat, please stay out of this topic because you are doing nothing but making yourself look really stupid.
— The Truth Jun 29, 12:29 AM #
does anyone know whether the engineer affects defenses killed by IPMs?
— chickenman Jun 29, 02:09 AM #
thecat’s not even discussing officers anymore, he’s just trying to piss off anyone who posts anything
— pegg legg swansoon Jun 29, 02:12 AM #
okay…
@ Panzer, wherever i posted that i had 100k light fighters, i didnt. and what does light fighters vs cruisers have anything to do about the officers? and deathstars (resource wise = 60) will decimate that ammount of cruisers, maybe not defeating them, but no losses. :)
i never said anything about beating EVERYONE, only that i could more than likely beat you (@ ogame).
oh yea, you do win, for being the person who went weird and started going on about Light fighters being destroyed by cruisers… :/
@chickenman. no, the engineer only affects the battle situation. not IPM
@ the truth,
y will no1 outprove me?you guys are only saying its based on opinion but i base it also on logic. some of my arguments are based on logic you realise… that is proved.
@all the others
stay on topic, i was having a little fun with mr marine. and yea, while i prove, i piss ppl off because they are all angered people who are too PC to have a few facts hit them straight in the face.
okay, now onto the proper part.
i simmed (cost wise) that 1 battleship = 30 LL. anyway, i tried 15 shielding and 15 armour, and still the LL won. thats 150% on both sides (massive amounts) and you go on about having 10% extra mining?
okay, not so likely situation, i tried bombers.
in my working out, LL is worth 2.5k, and a bomber is worth 145k.
1 bomber = 58 LL. i simmed this, and the ll won (no techs). i tried 5 armour and shielding, and alas, no difference. (except a few defenses killed, but the bomber was gone in first round anywayz.)
then i tried 10 armour and shielding. the battle simply lasts another round.
this goes to prove that well, 10% makes no difference, let alone 150% (when dealing with these numbers)... only basic exception is the deathstar, the one ship that overkills it but what the hell ill do it anyway.
it draws, but with huge losses on the defensive side. they draw due to shielding…
y do you assume im stupid? thats actually a dirty trick they use over here in new zealand when they get themselves into an unbeatable situation to make it seem like they are smarter… sorry, just aint gonna cut with me.
i’d like to hear the reply to this very soon. :)
— thecat Jun 29, 04:58 AM #
woops missed this part out
when people over 300k have say, 400 battleships and are edging to use them on people just over 5k, is that very fair? that is a real advantage…
— thecat Jun 29, 05:01 AM #
yeh but those ppl did it w/o money. they played the game fair and square and y would they hit ppl at 5k who have little to no fleet to be making a debris. ppl with 400 BS go for bigger fleets then 10 cruisers 10 LFs
— Panzer Jun 29, 06:16 AM #
wow. now that everybody’s thoroughly discussed their sexuality, intellect and mathematical skills, i think that the only conclusion is that:
yes, officers suck and unbalance gameplay, especially if used on a large scale; but
ogame doesn’t run itself and this is how they’ve chosen to subsidise their running costs.
You’d have to be really quite stupid or stupidly rich to really go out there and spend hundreds of dollars on buying officers for all the universes you play in. nonetheless it could still happen; perhaps there should be a limit placed on it as mentioned above.
On a final note, thecat has really excelled himself. i don’t think i have ever seen anything as poorly worded as his posts (even considering his nimble use of 1337) or his arguments. dear sir, you cannot escape the fact that officers confer an advantage upon the players who are payers.
whether or not the USArmy used depleted uranium in iraq seems to be somewhat off the topic, but i guess you are a Kiwi.
i can see why he had an argument while playing an fps about whether he was the internet. he said he won, but in a democracy you’re allowed to be wrong…
— Rusquel Jun 29, 10:19 AM #
Yeah, I’m not sure where he was going with the DU thing; Thanks for the clarification on the officers.
So if you get your officers early on with no real game experience, you may not know how to best utilize those advantages. Fair enough.
If you start a new profile in a different uni, and know how to use it, you ahve an immense advantage, end of story. Right or wrong ethically, the advantage is there. Even if you get officers later in the game, where thier abilities don’t have the chance to accumulate as they would earlier on, there is a distinct advantage over your non-paying counterparts.
Now in other games you’ll often see unlocked areas with extra goodies when you pay into the game, or better controls, etc. You don’t usually see a blatant strategic advantage like this offred, and its no wonder people are up in arms (literally) over this. The developers obviously aren’t paying attention to their users. I understand that servers need funding, believe me. But surely there are better ways.
— Seandacht Jun 29, 12:03 PM #
has anyone on hereever heard of godwin’s law?
basically, it says that the longer any kind of thread goes on on the internet, the more likely it is that it will turn into a massive argument involving comparing people with nazis or hitler. when it happens, whoever mentioned the nazis or hitler has lost the arguement
This is likely to happen on this thread very soon
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— thecat Jun 29, 01:08 PM #
oh fine, i am a dick, you win Thecat.
That is final for all of us. officers provide little to no advantaage due to the disadvantages you get
— The Truth Jun 29, 04:00 PM #
Ok thecat, that’s real hard to do, type in someone else’s nickname on a site, it’s not like you need a password, so go ahead, show your maturity, because I guarantee anyone who is actually reading this knows I would not say that, so go ahead and be a complete moron.
— The Truth Jun 30, 12:04 AM #
i will cuz i got nothin better to do then to sit on a compter n act like i know stuff
— thecat Jun 30, 12:06 AM #
Now see, that wasn’t hard. So I suggest you just stop now, we can all make fun of your pathetic points on our own names, and by you going on ours and trying to saound stupid, you’re only proving that you have no idea what you’re talking about.
— The Truth Jun 30, 12:07 AM #
the cat u know wuts funny? wen imitating the truth u capiltalized ur name wen the truth hasnt capitalized ur name at all way to try to fake it. wut a loser…
— Panzer Jun 30, 07:02 AM #
guys, c’mon stop spamming.
— Mv3 Jun 30, 03:30 PM #
I just want to say that does anybody think about how much time and money these people put into this game, first the hosting takes alot of money and second of all servers cost 10-20 thousand dollars (USD) each. If they never charged for a game this large then how are they supposed to keep up with the upkeep of keeping this massive game online…
— Comp Jul 1, 12:13 AM #
Actually comp, servers cost less than $100 to run a month, and to buy one it costs under a thousand, and not to mention, Ogame makes enough money off of the ads they put on the site.
Also, another point to put out is that this game is not a massively complex game, it’s text based and there are absolutely no graphics besides the pictures, I know plenty of people that in still in high school who have done more complex things and also run more expensive sites (and they do it without messing up the gameplay).
One more thing, to thecat, one of the things you always said was the technocrat gives no advantage because with IRN you can make research times quicker, but do you think people with technocrat are not gonna use the IRN? Now if two people have the same level Research Labs and IRN, and one has technocrat, which one does better research whys?
— The Truth Jul 1, 01:27 AM #
One more thing, just because I’m in the talkative mood, this is to pegg legg swansoon, no disrespect, but so far, you’re the ONLY person here that has even mentioned the word “Nazi” or “Hitler” and I’ve seen huge argument threads that never mention it, also, a scientific law is based on pure fact, and that means it will always happen, like the laws of gravity, no matter what, everything follows the laws of gravity (and that IS including all the stuff people like Chris Angel do because as he says, it is all an illusion and anyone with the right training and understanding can do it), so basically, you’re “godwin’s law” is nothing but a load.
— The Truth Jul 1, 01:33 AM #
i think thecat quits and knows u win good job truth
— Panzer Jul 2, 09:49 PM #
no i didnt quit. i couldnt get to a computer. and i wished to wait for responses.
some people fail to realise, that ogame does advertise its own games sometimes. like metin2.
he has still failed to outvalidate what i have said about other officers. if he cant fully defeat me, he hasnt won. simple truth. in ogame terms (so you can work it out), if i lost 199 rockets, but have 200 in 6 rounds, then it’s still a draw. i havent lost, but havent won. that is exactly what the truth and others seem to forget.
and also, ppl dont get officers. remember? they are ‘too unfair’ mmm? and to be honest, people at the top 100 are gonna bge the only people with around 5 IRN. and as you said, people with officers get attacked. must mean that they cant keep much res, cos they dont know how to fleetsave. remember, only noobs get them.
now, dont next post say that that was based on opinion, because then you will just put yourself in a spiral of badness. this is your opinion so that means your opinion would mean nothing. plz dont sit there, angered out of your mind because i used your own thoughts against you. im a master at it.
yea sure, they MIGHT get IRN, but then they might not. once again, i used your own opinion against you.
basically, i have just disproved what you think in those few sentences. this is a catch 22 situation. no matter which door you take (or if you stay still) you’re going to fall off a cliff.
this post is boring. no1 is getting angered and its really silly, having to spread myself amoungst around about 4 ppl. but do you realise that the only loser bigger than the loser himself is the one that argues with the loser. i havent called you a loser before this post, so that cant be used against me.
once again i find myself in a position, asking when some1 will disprove me.
if not within about 4 days, then i win.
— thecat Jul 3, 04:22 AM #
Here:
“only noobs get officers”
“only people at the top 100 are gonna have IRN 5”
“and as you said, people with officers get attacked. must mean that they cant keep much res, cos they dont know how to fleetsave”
ok those are just a few quotes of yours that I found either false or opinion. I’m not even in the top 1000 and I have IRN 6, so there goes that point out the window.
Second, anyone can use officers, and I’m sure a bunch of people ranked #2,3,4,5, all the way to 10 buy them just so they can get an advantage over player #1 and beat him, they’re not noobs.
Now I’‘m going to prove that every officer is unfair:
Fleet Admiral:
Opinion-fleet admiral provides no advantage, o one uses all their fleet slots.
Fact-not everyone uses all of their fleet slots, however there are people who do, so an extra two fleet slots would be a big help to a raider who sends out all of his fleets to maximize profits.
Engineer:
Opinion-%10 extra is nothing. The denfense can just be rebuilt, no advantage.
Fact-%10 more energy is a big help, especially when it comes to graviton, say you have 100,000 energy, trying to get to 300,000, then with the %10 advantage, that’s a total of 110,000 energy. Now, do you think that 10,000 energy is nothing?
Next point, if someone has 100 plasma cannons and gets attacked, he looses about 30, that’s expensive, but if he only looses 15, that’s a big differance, and then if they both build 30 the next day, the normal one will have 100 again, and the Officer will have 115. 15 plasmas is a big differance.
Geologist:
Opinion-%10 extra mines is nothing, people can raid that in a day.
Fact-Jut because someone can raid, doesn’t mean they will, for those who don’t raid, %10 mining may not be a large amount compared to the total, but if you can make 5000 metal an hour, with the %10 bonus you can get 5500, 500 is not alot, but,
people can use that 500, it can help get to a certain amount a lot faster, for example, if you’re trying to save 2,000,000 metal, at 5,000 an hour, it’ll take 16 days and 16 hours, with the %10 bonus, it will take 15 days 4 hours, now that’s an entire day, that IS an advantage right there.
Technocrat:
Opinion-the extra time is nothing, with IRN you can get rid of that advantage.
Fact-The %25 faster research time can be very useful. Yes someone might be able to get the same times with IRN, but then When the Officer gets IRN there’s no way to compete with their times.
Also, the +2 Espionage levels for probes, you can send less probes to get more information, meaning that you can get some probes out of risk of dieing.
-That’s ALL the officer’s advantages, there really is no disadvantages to them besides the people who attack officers for fun, but if you keep your mouth shut about having them, then people won’t know and won’t attack for that reason.
Now, I’m satisfied with my FACTS, so I’m done, goodbye thecat, nice fightin with ya.
P.S.-Nice article on FAQ for noobs, seriously, it was a good one.
Bye
— The Truth Jul 3, 04:23 PM #
wow the truth u just completly owned thecat
— Panzer Jul 3, 05:36 PM #
thanx for the compliment.
but you are a lying sack of crap, how many points did you have, aroudn 50k points? and not have graviton? its costs around 25mill crystal, 15mill metal, and 10mill deuterium for it all the way up to lvl 6. and thats just the research IRN, along with all the other research, you would easily be into the top 1k.
also, GOOD raiders and people with no life can determine, with 3 espo reports and 1 raid, they can determine what officer you have other (possibly, if they are really good) what officer tyou have. oh yea and also a phalanx. remember, just 2 fleets about your maximum computer tech, will be able to determine if you have fleet admiral or not. so sometimes you cant just keep your mouth shut, they have their ways. btw im talking about people with no lifes, so this isnt based on opinion, but a example and logic.
yes, those points are correct, and ALMOST unarguable. thankfully, i can disprove them.
what miner is going to save 2 mill? think of it, that is raided in a day, and thats just inactives with no ships.
yea 15 plasma is a lot. especially when they use IPM and fodder. do you really think no1 uses them? they are used all the time, and i only had 20 ions when i got IPM’ed.
and the only way that the technocrat really works, is when you’re an organiser. if you’re not organised, then it doesnt help so much. and it is used for time, a passive thing, not proper raiding or such. also, people usually wont be able to get the res to be able to even research the well, research within 2 hours. basically, no1 gets research end on end. they have to get resource.
but, because your umm thing blablabla, what is it, oh yea, due to what i got out of your example on research, people DO get research end on end, so that means they can get comp tech easy as. remember? plus lvl 15 is almost as cheap as IRN 7, if you are a trader.
in later ages, no1 cares about 5k crystal. and also, they take around 2mins each. so quick. about 10 mins, also, win nanites 4, that is reduced to around about 1 min. what about nanites? that halfes the construction, not just – 25%, but 50%! that is sooooooo big!!!! sooooooo UNFAIR!!!!!
thats what you sound like. you’re crying because some1 isnt patient and wants something to make them not wait. and crying over some1 getting 2 research lvls on espo, is soooo lame. its like crying because some1 is better than you. its too lame. going on about some1 having, really what res could buy in another way. you’re just a crybaby. aww, some persons a little better than me waaaaaaa!
and no1 wants them because some1 decided to badmouth them bafore some1 could goodmouth them. simple luck if you ask me.
panzer, to be honest, if some1 called them good and nothing really wrong with them, would you believe them?
most would. look at evolution. the worst lie ever. no proof, no scientific proof, no nothing. not even a REAL bone. kinda stink aint it. but people still believe it. so amazing.
wow, what have i covered here, how to be a crybaby, impatience for dummies and being the first to say a lie… wow. quite amazing what can be achieved through a little musing.
though, i did have one thought. you (or some1) said that you dont need any passwords or anything, you could go under any alias and write anything. what if these aliases were the same people. what if panzer, and js and such were just you, the truth? maybe i too am a figure of your imagination so you can prove to your freinds that your not some wimpy idiot crybaby. think of it, its too coincidental for all of them to agree with you and none with me. makes you think though, doesnt it? and to make it even more real, you could’ve just posted that my first article was good so they seem even more real. maybe your just a 5 year old who gets bullied. maybe there is a real ‘Panzer’ out there, you’re just aliasing him. some of his posts could be true, then you made some. isnt it too coincidental too that you left, and others came? so you just moved them in slowly, then you came into the picture, acting like the all smart TRUTH! and also that exactly 1 hour 13 mins later, panzer posts that you owned me. how many times does ‘Panzer’ check it? twice a day? i check around once. and coincidental, only an hour later he posts?
but of course, if i was a figure of your imagination, then i wouldnt be rebelling against you.
but think, the interweb is a lying piece of crap when it comes to these. maybe i should make a few imaginary friends to make my proof, well proof!
so yea, go and cry to your mother because some1 has 2mill metal a day earlier! better yet, go cry to your mother because some just raided that 2mill metal in 2 mins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA TAKE THAT!
— thecat Jul 4, 01:46 AM #
thecat theres a reason no1 sides with u, ur points make no sense whatsoever
— Panzer Jul 4, 11:04 AM #
umm yes it does. this is what i mean. none of you will read it, and thats what i find intruiging.
and when you defeat me, ill decide if they are wrong or right points. and i think it was you who was going on about listening to the other side hmmm?
— thecat Jul 4, 02:34 PM #
I have readed all this page and thecat you are the most hard headed people i never seen before ! Yeah you will probably think that i am The Truth or Panzer or something like that ! No man I am real and I think you should rest before 5 peoples are against you !
— Lord Legion Draconite Reaper Jul 5, 10:43 AM #
Hello again. Vacation’s fun. Good way to spell it out The Truth.
Maybe its the pina coladas, or maybe its the fresh air…
jsut leave this kid alone to his so-called victory so he’ll shut the fuck up…we’re all convinced here and its obvious to a newcomer of the conversation that while tehcat may know what he or she is talking about to a point…they’re still an idiot.
Yes, you can be smart and an idiot at the same time, I see it everywhere. I for one am done here. I suggest anyone who still has a brain left do likewise.
— Seandacht Jul 5, 06:10 PM #
yay i win! i defeated a noob who claims he is from the us army!
— thecat Jul 6, 02:20 AM #
Good idea , lets leave thecat to his arguments and his winning/losing problems , lets not argue anymore because it have no point .
— Lord Legion Draconite Reaper Jul 6, 02:26 AM #
wow, i really have won.
think of it, you think my points are opinions, thats your opinion. and the truth did exactly the same, he said you could get so many ll when some MIGHT and not, that was the thing you are calling me stupid about.
saying im stupid and calling me brainless, doesnt mean i have lost. you still havent defeated what i say about officers. so… hehe, i win. end of story, brainless oafs.
— thecat Jul 10, 02:06 PM #
thecat you are a strange person. keep you arguments for you, and …
— desflorador Jul 12, 04:26 PM #
how can i be a strange person, my name is thecat, surely that tells you something ^^
— thecat Jul 13, 06:06 PM #
Hay I think it’s time to open my mouth again. The reason I haven’t posted In a long time is becuase I said in the last few posts that I wrote that this topic was getting pointless becuase there can be no winning and losing thecat. Especially when your the one making up the “points” or deciding who wins and loses. It’s really you going, if I get to bored then I will quit otherwise I’ll let “them” give up and I will call myself the champ.
To me your just a chump.
— js35wake uni-28 Jul 14, 07:57 PM #
heyy thecat,, I’m back,, just because I’m bored.. and I was just rereading some of you posts… and I realized something.. I proved every single thing you said was wrong.
What I’m trying to say is that from now on, you will not be able to outsmart me or prove me wrong.. now let’s get on with it.
a normal person will make %100 rescources per hour, with officer they will make %110, let’s say they both ave all level 20 mines, that would mean the person without officer makes:
4036 metal an hour,
2690 crystal an hour, and
1676 deuterium an hour,
that would mean that the person with officer would make:
4440 Metal an hour,
2959 Crystal an hour,
1844 Deuterium an hour,
Now let’s say that they both build 100 Plasma Cannons as soon as they can,Meaning that:
The person without Officer will have the rescources in 77 Days and 11 Hours
And The person with officer will have the resources in 70 Days and 10 Hours.
Altogether that’s a difference of 7 Days and 1 Hour.
However, they both get attack by a high ranking player and both lose everything as soon as they reach the 100 Plasm Cannons, meaning:
The person without officer is at 70 Plasma Cannons
The person with officer is at 85 Plasma Can